2024 05 13

[seanmcilroy29]

2024 05 13

Time 0830 PDT / 1630 BST - See the time in your timezone https://everytimezone.com/s/a8399b00

• Chair – Chris Adams (The Green Web Foundation)
• Chair - Lisa.McNally (Thoughtworks)
• Chair - Michael Mueller (re:cinq)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Agenda

• Approve Agenda / previous minutes - Quorum not reached

Discussions

• BCS follow-up #80
• [AI] NSF collaboration #75
• Policy Manual Project Proposal #74
• Allow members to offer extended green software tests to provide certification in green software with an industry partner
• Review the comments and options
• Review and Close Issues

Sustainable Foundation LF Foundation Round Table Proposal - Sean

• Discussions with fellow foundations to understand their primary focused areas.

AOB

• Topics submitted during the meeting

Next meeting

• 27th May

Adjourn

• Motion to adjourn

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EU Adopts Mandatory Rules on Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence That Will Apply to Many US Companies

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MoM
Michael opens the meeting at 16:30 BST

Upcoming legislation and its impact on organisations.
Chris explains how new legislation may affect organisations, especially those in the financial sector. Sean emphasizes the significance of the GSF in addressing these concerns and setting a standard for due diligence in software development. Sean and Chris then delve into a discussion about the Climate Corporate Accountability Act in the US and its implementation. Chris further explains the variations in interpreting and implementing laws between countries, citing examples from Europe and Canada.

Standardising the environmental impact of digital services.
Sean and others discussed the follow-up on the BCS MOU with Alex.
Sean suggests collaboration with BCS to standardise the environmental impact of digital services.

Adopting SCI for sustainability in web development, with potential for collaboration and workshop.
Sean suggests inviting Alex to a meeting on June 10th to finalise the MOU. Sean plans to invite Alex on June 24th. Chris proposes a workshop to teach Django developers to measure carbon emissions using the software carbon intensity standard. Chris and Sean discuss the potential for other organisations to adopt the same approach, using the maturity matrix to guide their efforts. Sean provides updates on grant applications and policy manual development. Collaboration with organisations discussed for revenue stream and membership fee review.

Policy ‘Radar’ Manual.
Chris recommends using a wiki or GitHub issue to establish a shared information repository for the GSF. He suggests incorporating drop-down menus and workflows to facilitate easy contributions from members. Sean agrees and proposes the use of an issues template with drop-down menus to simplify the process of creating and reviewing issues for members. Additionally, Sean suggests examining NTT DATA's existing work on sustainability instead of starting from scratch. The group decides to hold off on implementing their ideas until NTT DATA can demonstrate them.

Strategic partnership and certification for green software.
Sean and Chris discussed the adoption of SCI and the certification program. Michael shared ideas for aligning interests with the Policy Working Group, and Sean hoped to scale the adoption of standards. Sean suggested that the policy working group should discuss prioritizing the next steps with the standards working group. Michael discussed the partnership with the Green Software Foundation, highlighting opportunities for collaboration and cross-pollination. Chris sought clarification on certification and industry partners, expressing confusion about trademark and partnership details.

Certification program for software carbon intensity.
Sean and Chris discuss the need for a certification program to ensure companies use the Sei standard correctly. They plan to work with standards groups to create a minimum rigour for the certification process. Chris mentions a group called Green Coding Berlin that has figured out ways to get cloud computing cost estimates wrong and provides accurate measurements. Sean suggests creating a revenue stream through the certification program, with certification fees for product development and adoption. Chris and Michael discuss the potential value of certification, including legislation compliance and increased buyer trust. Michael mentions ISO 2701 as an example.

Aligning SEI certification with legislation for financial sector compliance.
Chris suggests using a policy-based approach to measure SEO improvement, such as increasing fuel efficiency by 10% annually. Sean agrees, stating that this is a way to demonstrate compliance with upcoming legislation. Sean and Michael discuss aligning SCI certification with legislation to create a revenue stream and demonstrate JSF value.

Action Items

• Schedule a follow-up meeting with Alex from the BCS to finalise an MOU.
• Circulate a mind map outlining considerations for an SCI certification program.
• Engage certification experts
• Cancel the May 27th meeting due to a US and European holiday.
• Invite Gadhu from NTT DATA to discuss their policy implementation approach.

[NAMRATA-WOKE]

@seanmcilroy29 can we get this on the agenda again? Allow members to offer extended green software tests to provide certification in green software with an industry partner