Minutes of the June 5th Meeting

[johngray-dev]

There were issues with the Zoom link not working this morning. Switched to using IETF Gather table G again.

Present: Tomofumi, John Gray, Julien Prat, Emily Ratliff, Max Pala, Mike Ounsworth, Jan Klaubner

IETF 117: John Gray will register with the following information:

Champion(s)
John Gray ([email protected])
Mike Ounsworth ([email protected])
Tomofumi Okubo ([email protected])
Massimiliano Pala ([email protected])
Julien Prat ([email protected])

Drafts(s)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-kyber-certificates/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-keys/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-sigs/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-kem/
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-housley-lamps-cms-kemri-00.html
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth/
TODO: TOMO to add Cert discovery draft
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bonnell-lamps-chameleon-certs/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gazdag-x509-hash-sigs/

Project info
Purpose is to make use of PQ in real world X.509 structures like keys, signatures, certificates and protocols. This will allow us to test interoperability between different algorithm implementations, gain experience using these new algorithms, and provide feedback to the standards groups about practical usage in the real world.
A good starting place is our Github repository: https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates

For information on OIDs used to create interoperable structures, consult: https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates/blob/master/docs/oid_mapping.md

Round Table Discussion:
Julien Prat - Had a question about how the compatibility matrix works. Each vendor needs to run the tooling scripts against their implementation. Here is the readme about how this works: https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates/blob/master/src/README.md
Mike Ounsworth - Composite drafts are in the call for adoption in Lamps.

• This group had a bit of discussion about a couple of people are so opposed to composite. Maybe we need to retract and then line up support so that we can get it passed? Some question about Teep group and RATS. Maybe retract. Call for adoption on June 14th - Emily will ask Mike Osbourne about this from IBM.

Emily Ratliff - Taking a look at Github pages, and coming up to speed.

Tomofumi - Started work on the discovery draft. We send out some information in the next week or two.

Jan Klaussner - Made a pull request to submit artifacts for the Botan library. This looks good, and we will Merge it into the github repository

Max Pala - Posted some updates on the chat, work on composite implementations and hash-then-sign model. Lots of debugging done in his implementation. Also updated his OID mapping table.

John Gray - Updated explicit composite implementation and implemented the Delta Certificate descriptor hybrid certificate format. Looking forward to doing some interop testing with this format at IETF 117.

Issues Resolved:
Started looking at the issues, but ran out of time.
Resolved this issue: #49 Mike Ounsworth added the IETF license.

Next meeting is July 3rd but is likely a holiday in a number of places.