Needs to start in desktop mode

[RiverExplorer]

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[svillar]

Could you please explain a little bit more what this is about? Is it a request?

[DWAAR]

I think they're saying the browser should default to desktop mode, rather than defaulting to mobile-view webpages. Currently you have to go into the setting and check the desktop mode box every session, it doesn't appear to be sticky.

[svillar]

If that's the case then I'll close this as there are not plans to do so. We're talking about devices with limitted resources and interaction (input) constraints, so the mobile version provides much better experience in general. Thanks anyway for the suggestion.

[RiverExplorer]

Several people have told me the app does not work. In most cases it was because it started in the wrong mode for the web page. If you are not going to fix it, perhaps when it just starts reloading the same page over and over multiple times you can pop-up something that says "would you like to try desktop mode?". RiverExplorer - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ***@***.*** 714-989-6135

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On 2/24/23 16:01, Sergio wrote: If that's the case then I'll close this as there are not plans to do so. We're talking about devices with limitted resources and interaction (input) constraints, so the mobile version provides much better experience in general. Thanks anyway for the suggestion. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#498 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AZRDOQUQ5DU5L2TWGKKHYOLWZFDVJANCNFSM6AAAAAAVAC22JA>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[DWAAR]

We'll have to agree to disagree about which is the appropriate mode for VR. My own personal preference for viewing webpages on a subjectively giant screen is not the page layout designed for 6" mobile screens.

Could the mode checkbox choice at least be sticky, so that users that choose to get pages in desktop layout only have to specify that once rather than every session?

[svillar]

OK, let's reevaluate it

[svillar]

@felipeerias Maybe we could add a new radio button in the settings to allow users to permanently select desktop mode as default, although there are also some other changes required in the machinery of the modes.

[felipeerias]

@svillar That could make sense, yes. It shouldn't be a big change.

One thing that I wanted to mention is that these modes not only change the user-agent but also how a page's viewport is calculated.

Mobile mode tries to follow the "viewport" meta tag provided by the website. For example, with mobile mode whatismyviewport.com reports a width of 800px at the default window size, which changes as you resize the window.

On the other hand, desktop mode forces the viewport to be always 980px wide, regardless of the size of the window (which seems weird?).

Unfortunately, I don't think that Gecko provides us with fine control over these behaviours.

[svillar]

@svillar That could make sense, yes. It shouldn't be a big change.

One thing that I wanted to mention is that these modes not only change the user-agent but also how a page's viewport is calculated.

Mobile mode tries to follow the "viewport" meta tag provided by the website. For example, with mobile mode whatismyviewport.com reports a width of 800px at the default window size, which changes as you resize the window.

On the other hand, desktop mode forces the viewport to be always 980px wide, regardless of the size of the window (which seems weird?).

Actually the viewport change is one of the things that guarantee that you get the "desktop" version of the page, which is want many users want, to get the same version of the page than in desktop.

Unfortunately, I don't think that Gecko provides us with fine control over these behaviours.

I think we should try to add the option of setting desktop mode permanently. I think that would be enough.

[RiverExplorer]

RiverExplorer - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ***@***.*** 714-989-6135

On 3/9/23 00:02, Sergio wrote: @svillar <https://github.com/svillar> That could make sense, yes. It shouldn't be a big change. One thing that I wanted to mention is that these modes not only change the |user-agent| but also how a page's viewport is calculated. Mobile mode tries to follow the |"viewport"| meta tag provided by the website. For example, with mobile mode whatismyviewport.com <https://whatismyviewport.com/> reports a width of 800px at the default window size, which changes as you resize the window. On the other hand, desktop mode forces the viewport to be always 980px wide, regardless of the size of the window (which seems weird?). Actually the viewport change is one of the things that guarantee that you get the "desktop" version of the page, which is want many users want, to get the same version of the page than in desktop. Unfortunately, I don't think that Gecko provides us with fine control over these behaviours. I think we should try to add the option of setting desktop mode permanently. I think that would be enough.

Yes, just flip the toggle text to 'mobile mode' and default to desktop mode' Seems like an easy fix.

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[felipeerias]

We should also make it easier to change the display density value that we provide to the Web engine. It is already an option in the Display settings.

Responsive websites often take the viewport size into account when deciding whether to display the mobile or the desktop layout. Changing the display density makes the viewport larger from the point of view of the website, which means that it can accommodate more content.

At the default 1.0 density, the viewport has a size of 800x450:

Responsive websites (e.g. dribble) use the mobile layout:

Setting the display density to 0.75 gives us a viewport of size 1067x600:

And responsive websites now can use a wider desktop/tablet layout:

This setting is already implemented, but it is not well explained in the UI and changing it currently requires us to restart Wolvic (which doesn't actually work on some systems, the app just closes).