Not noticing all new games?

[silentguy256]

Recently I've noticed multiple times that if I add multiple keys either with !redeem or the BGR then it does not account for all the keys in the stats (at first). For instance I added keys for 16 games, 10 of which have cards. They were all added and the bot changed to playing game 1 of 3.
Is there any way to fix this/trigger an manual recheck? This is incredible minor, as it usually notices the other possible cards long before they become relevant, but it kind of irks the number nerd in me

[Rudokhvist]

It's not about games, it's about cards in games. Sometimes steam does not list badge from a new game on a badges page, so ASF has no way to find out that new game has cards in it. Why steam sometimes don't list cards as available for some time? We don't know, ask Gaben.

[silentguy256]

Hm, restarting the bot immediately displays all the games and cards. Even restarting it very shortly after adding the games has so far always made all the games appear. If this "doesn't list cards as available for some time" is in the seconds range then it feels like it would be nice to wait a few seconds before checking or manually/automatically recheck after a minute or so.

[Rudokhvist]

Restarting the bot is not the same as waiting for the time required for restart. Next time you can try using farm command instead, if I remember it right - it will check for available games without restarting the bot (andmost probably won't help because of that). And restarting the bot after every redeemed key is not a great idea, IMHO.
@JustArchi what can be done is changing IdleFarmingPeriod type from byte to double - this way, if somebody believes that it's useful, they can set interval less than one hour for it, on their own risk. And it won't even require changes in config files (if somebody uses this value in plugins they would feel this change tho). Of course, if you believe that such change is not acceptable, that's fine by me too.

[JustArchi]

You have no guarantee when (if ever) Steam updates the community badge page ASF fetches the badge information from. Most of the time, those pop up immediately, sometimes, they are delayed (especially if Steam is under heavy load). ASF has IdleFarmingPeriod as well as re-check after idling is done for new stuff to fight with this and not depend on it, I won't add excessive delay because that doesn't fix the underlying issue, only decreases performance to fight with non-crticial edge cases. If Steam is crap, then it is, nothing can be done about it, I've seen some games appearing on the badge page even after several hours since redeeming.

[silentguy256]

As I said, to me it felt like waiting a few seconds after the last key was redeemed would be enough, especially because I kind of thought the problem might be that it checks after the first key was processed. If it would really mean such a delay then that's indeed too much delay for such a small issue.

[Rudokhvist]

As I said, to me it felt like waiting a few seconds after the last key was redeemed would be enough

As I said, you are wrong about this. You are jumping to conclusions. You restarted the bot and after that cards status were refreshed, but it's not because time has passed, but because you restarted the bot. I just checked with farm command (that does exactly what you want - checks if there is any games to farm), like I suggested to you to do, and after 10 minutes cards still not updated. So delay of "a few seconds" definitely would not help. Sadly I need to go now and can't check how much time will pass before steam will update the badges page, but even if I could - this will be just one experiment, and actual time may vary by a lot.

[Rudokhvist]

Update - I did not tracked it very precisely, but it took about three hours for cards to appear on badges page without restarting the bot. That's totally in rage of values you can set in IdleFarmingPeriod.

[silentguy256]

Oh, I totally believe you. As I said this was just a minor question anyway, I was just trying to explain my confusion, not saying you were wrong. Guess Steam has gotten worse in some way there cause until a few months ago this never happened to me 🤷‍♂️
But now you have peaked my interest in something slightly different: What does restarting the bot do different that restarting makes it see all the cards? Does it use another source for badges?

[Rudokhvist]

Yes, I also started experienced this issue only recently, a few months sounds about right.
I can't answer your question of what exactly restarting the bot does differently, only Valve employers will be able to answer that. But when restarting bot goes through login procedure, so it's not surprising that steam may initialize some structures related to account. Then again, I never checked myself if restarting the bot reliably resolves this issue, I only rely on what you said above. It also may be that you were just lucky that steam updated badges page in a few seconds, and I was just unlucky that it took a few hours to me.