Automation for Thermostats with no "OFF" Setting

[CommanderROR9]

Hi,

Upon installing a better Thermostat with my Homematic IP thermostats controlling my floor heating I get a warning that Homematic does not support the "OFF" state and I should create an automation to catch this.
Sadly I have not found any documentation on how to do this and what to actually do...sorry if I am missing something obvious...

[bsafh]

strange ...

Homemeatic does indeed do support the OFF state

climate.hm_cc_rt_dn_keq0510269_2:

HM-CC-RT-DN KEQ0510269
heat	hvac_modes: auto, heat, off
min_temp: 4.5
max_temp: 30.5
target_temp_step: 0.5
preset_modes: boost, comfort, eco, none
current_temperature: 19.3
temperature: 13.5
hvac_action: idle
preset_mode: none
interface_id: RaspberryMatic-BidCos-RF
address: KEQ0510269:4
model: HM-CC-RT-DN
entity_type: custom
value_state: valid
friendly_name: HM-CC-RT-DN KEQ0510269
supported_features: 17

that is, wehen you use the homematicip_local custom integration, not the totally outdated and obsolete homematic integeration buildt into HA code ...

[CommanderROR9]

Thanks. The problem is that I use Homematic IP via the access point, so it's cloud based and the custom integration won't work with that AFAIK.

[bsafh]

OK, I never used the Homematic Cloud.

I'm running a debmatic or RaspberryMatic in a virtual machine without cloud. That does cover HomematicIP as well, without any cloud.

[CommanderROR9]

Any suggestions on how to handle this automation then? Currently it seems my HmIP wall thermostats are not really working as expected...the room temp is going up although the settings for the thermostats has long been reached.
They seem to be switching between Manual ans Automatic all the time...

[michelbalzer]

Maybe set the target temperature to 5 degrees or something, with the first service mentioned (better_thermostat.set_temp_target_temperature) at https://better-thermostat.org/schedule?

[KartoffelToby]

I Wonder how it works with the normal climate card

But you can build an automation with device Trigger on off and Heat Mode

[CommanderROR9]

Thanks for looking into it. I have given up on this for now since my heating was going bonkers while I had this turned on. The temperature was set to pretty low values but it just kept on heating...not sure why. I will give it some time to mature and then try again.