[2024-06-24]: [Alphabetical ordering for Ukrainian and Portuguese languages]

[olexandr-konovalov]

The right navigation bar with letters at https://glosario.carpentries.org/uk/ does not follow the order of letters in Ukrainian alphabet, placing "І" at the last place. Is there a way to enforce the fixed order of the letters?

[olexandr-konovalov]

It seems to me the issue is not with the navigation bar, but with terms being ordered in the wrong way in the first instance. I have traced this to "Find terms defined in this language and sort alphabetically":

https://github.com/carpentries/glosario/blob/b7d10b315e6e2b34572dfab4c5692187ec5fb225/_includes/glossary.html#L9C1-L9C61

but I don't know where to go from here.

[YehorBoiar]

Could it be because we don't have all letters for all terms? So it just ordered ones that only exist

[olexandr-konovalov]

@YehorBoiar we can of course try to push for more translations to cover more Ukrainian letters - new PRs welcome :)

But I don't think that "І" at the last place depends somehow on that. That is perhaps due to Unicode codes playing the role. Similar problem for Portuguese in https://glosario.carpentries.org/pt/ where  is not after A, but at the very end. I don't have any knowledge of Portuguese to comment on this, but https://portuguese.stackexchange.com/questions/5797/do-diacritical-marks-accents-affect-alphabetical-sorting-of-words suggests that this is not the way it should be.

[olexandr-konovalov]

P.S. Indeed the unicode code seems to be relevant: compare Ukrainian alphabet by position in alphabet at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_alphabet with the Ukrainian character table at https://character-table.netlify.app/ukrainian/. So the question is as before - how to introduce sorting in a properly alphabetical order?

[froggleston]

This will be down to how liquid and jekyll implement their sort filter.

It seems that they sort by unicode rather than natural ordering in that specific language:

• sort only sorts in binary jekyll/jekyll#2135

Relevant other info:

• https://www.rubydoc.info/gems/activesupport/ActiveSupport/Inflector#transliterate-instance_method
• https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4127812/sort-list-based-on-their-i18n-translation

[froggleston]

Related to #254

[olexandr-konovalov]

Would it be possible to provide correct sorting for each language explicitly (and request providing that as a part of adding new languages)?

[froggleston]

I believe I've implemented this correctly in the PR above, but due to my lack of lingual knowledge of many of the languages we have in the glossary, it's hard for me to verify! @olexandr-konovalov has been kind enough to verify the Ukrainian sorting as correct.

Remaining issues:

• Portuguese: It has split "A", "Â" and "A" and I'm not sure why. I don't think it's lingually split if that makes sense, rather technically. So I'll go back and check the template rendering process.
• Amharic: It seems to have produced a long list of "letter" entries which from my cursory reading about the fascinating language of Ethiopia are phonetic constructs rather than the base letter. Is this correct to do?

[olexandr-konovalov]

Excellent - thanks @froggleston!