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Add GDPR Checkbox #888
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Hello Malte, while I agree that preserving user privacy and getting their consent is really important, we shouldn't be contributing to the Web of Checkboxes™ and popups that currently exists out there. Instead, we should get consent only when really required and when it makes sense, in context. Isso currently doesn't require users to enter any data about themselves, unless the site admin has enabled any of the If we decide to implement a type of GDPR checkbox, it shouldn't be an option but be valid for all users (everyone could get traffic from EU, unless someone has enabled geo-blocking on their site, which I doubt is a scenario we care about). It should be triggered by entering an author name or email and dynamically pop up. The "Submit" field should be HTML5- Also, we could use an overhaul of the information presented to users, i.e. what will happen with the data they enter.
Another important aspect: We really need a sample privacy policy for users to copy to their site (and customize based on which options they have enabled). Would you be able to do that, @mhellmeier? Some other thoughts and links, not necessarily 100% related:
This is what I use for informing users what happens to their email: |
Thanks a lot for your detailed answer!
If I understand it correctly, every comment system needs such a checkbox to be GDPR compliant. Even if the data isn't used for other purposes and doesn't make public (like your mail example) you have to explicitly ask for consent. Just read the first 3 sentences of this blog post:
Yes, this sounds like a perfect solution for me!
I am sorry, but I haven't any background in law / legal. Perhaps we can find a person in the community who can assist here?! |
I feel that geolocation shouldn't be relied on. Plus some people could consider it worse for privacy. It also sounds like GDPR applies to EU users that are using a VPN to a non-EU country. It's probably better to be safe and show the checkbox all the time.
But if we can't read the email address server-side, then we can't send email notifications. To me that's the primary use of storing email address.
Maybe we could also have a built-in privacy policy endpoint ( If I understand it correctly, this could just be a small checkbox just like the reply notifications one (except never hidden). It would probably need to always be shown because all 3 boxes (name, email address, website) are probably personally identifiable info. And even if it's a completely anonymous comment, there's still cookies (we need to mention these too probably) saved so the user can edit the comment for a short time. |
You are correct there.
The course of action should be: Save plain email address to DB if subscribed to at least one thread. If unsubscribed from all threads, hash email and only continue storing that. If not subscribed to anything, immediately hash email and only save that to DB.
Providing a sample privacy policy at an endpoint is something I can get behind. As with providing an example syntax page, the issue is translations. We can only realistically provide an English page. Maybe have a config for three scenarios:
Those cookies are purely functional. We should probably only send credentials from cookies if really needed (for edit/delete), see api.js: |
If I understand it correctly, the user has to explicitly check a checkbox to agree actively and give their consent. Maybe just linking a privacy policy page isn't enough. What about the following suggestion for config options:
b) A custom checkbox with a custom text that have to be checked to submit the comment.
c) A privacy policy is linked with a default text like "By sending this form you agree to our privacy policy." --> Same as suggestion b) from @ix5
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(Related: #445) |
@mhellmeier you have correctly identified the need for separating the consent checkbox and a link to the privacy policy. The server config is not the right place for this (no i18n access), so the must go into the client config as The checkbox should be configurable to be disabled for people like you who immediately ask people for consent in another place - here when navigating to the website and obscuring the content (bad practice IMO, but if that's what you want, Isso shouldn't stand in your way). Features in Isso can't happen without someone implementing them - @mhellmeier, would you like to work on this? |
Currently, I am pretty busy so every contribution is highly appreciated! |
I think the privacy policy is separate from this and should be site-wide? Most websites gather all sorts of different data, and isso is just one. Your web server probably also stores logs, as does your email server, and other parts of the website on might track or accept different bits of data. How different bits of data are tracked and who has access to it will also be very specific to the site in question. |
Providing a default policy seems wrong to me, and I feel uncomfortable with. The fact is that we don't know how the site administrator is going to use the data provided by the user. They might use the email addresses in the database to send spam. A default privacy policy is not something they promise to uphold when they install isso. It's up to the site admin to provide a privacy policy. The most isso can do is provide some guidance on what data it stores in its database to help site admins write a privacy policy. |
It would be nice to give the administrator a way to configure the text next to a checkbox and to not have a default value for that. There are many situations (including GDPR and the Omnibus directive compliance), where making sure users need to check a checkbox in order to submit the comment is necessary. We're currently using ugly hacks to add this functionality to the isso comment section, and it would be so much prettier if this was a built-in functionality |
Yeah, I like the idea of just making it possible for the admin to require users agree to some things before being able to submit a comment without being prescriptive. |
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branch does not fix my issueWhat is not working?
When using the plugin in the EU, it has to follow the laws. In order to be GDPR compliant, a user has to actively agree that personal data (the comment, name, mail address, ...) is stored by the website operator.
To realize the requirements it would be great to implement a required checkbox with content similar to this:
Would be great to see a config option like
gdpr-checkbox
that can be set totrue
/false
and enables / disables the required checkbox.How can one reproduce this issue?
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