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+# Node.js Foundation Tooling Group Meeting 2020-01-10
+
+## Links
+
+- **Recording**: none wtf
+- **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/57
+- **Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QrM2pBeMlkUmG-XYV7pGdcGCYqQXANqQJQTL8pQbTqA/edit
+
+## Present
+
+- Tooling team (@nodejs/tooling)
+  - Ian Sutherland (@iansu)
+  - Ruy Adorno (@ruyadorno)
+  - Christopher Hiller (@boneskull)
+  - Bryan English (@bengl)
+  - Matan Kushner (@matchai)
+  - Corey Farrell (@coreyfarrell)
+  - Ben Coe (@bcoe)
+
+## Agenda
+
+## Announcements
+
+Extracted from **tooling-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting.
+
+### nodejs/tooling
+
+- tracking "hot module reloading" for ESM in core [#51](https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/51)
+
+  - Chris: it’s in the spec that we can’t currently hot reload ESM modules; tools need this, but who might have the team to work on it.
+  - Ben: we should poke around and see who has a pressing need for this:
+  - Chris: haven’t heard anything yet, might be that it’s too soon for folks to know it’s a problem.
+  - Ruy: business case is hampered by adoption.
+  - Corey: this is an example of spec being written for browser, and security needs that come along with it; this is an example of needing to escape the walled garden.
+  - Corey: I wonder if this could be something that also benefits WebDriver; does it have similar needs to escape restrictions.
+  - Chris: There’s agreement this is something that’s needed; implementation might be contentious. What we lack is motivation.
+
+- meeting at OpenJSF Summit [#44](https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/44)
+  - (Chris summarizes)
+  - Chris: if we want to tackle better argument parsing, who’s our audience: are we targeting folks learning Node.js, or folks building libraries?
+    - seemed to be consensus we don’t want to target power users.
+    - there was a case that not all languages have this ability.
+  - Corey: better if the code could work as a foundation, not be just for the simple cases.
+  - Matan: for the simplest approach do we want any typing.
+  - Chris: we need someone to own this …
+  - Chris: self contained binaries
+    - it’s nice to be able to distribute a self contained tool that folks don’t need to know specific about.
+    - zeit has been doing some work in this area.
+    - Ian: one of the former maintainers of create react app works at zeit, I asked him a month ago ot join (everyone is busy, forgot to join).
+- A better way to detect a process is exiting [#42](https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/42)
+- Source Map V3 Support in Node.js [#40](https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/40)
+  - https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/31132
+- argument parsing [#19](https://github.com/nodejs/tooling/issues/19)
+  - this was popular idea, and we want to move forward with some sort of solution
+  - Ruy will drop the "process.scriptArgs" idea (or whatever it's called; which is just `process.argv.slice(2)`)
+
+## Q&A, Other
+
+Corey: I’m going to be working on the `child_process.spawn()` hook to allow monkeying with the env (for nyc). I've opened an issue in node repo for similar functionality for worker threads
+
+## Upcoming Meetings
+
+- **Node.js Foundation Calendar**: https://nodejs.org/calendar
+
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