New docs website - what works and what doesn't? #15168
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It looks great, great work everybody. Header Homepage content Footer |
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Looking ok. the blue shadow under the header is a little dominant / distracting |
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I like the colours and layout. I think the blue trim is needed to maintain your branding. Dark mode ... yey!!! Endorsements are great. |
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It's amazing 🤩😍 |
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Few cents from my side
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Quasar is an amazing framework and I love it, but the UI/UX of this docs looks terrible to me, more specifically the dark mode |
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Personally I don't believe that it is up to the docs that this gem isn't more popular in the dev-land. Sure, everything could always be better. And dark mode is really a must-have nowadays having so huge screens 😄 |
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One thing I have noticed is that on mobile the menu to open the right-side drawer with the table of contents is gone. It was nice to get an overview of the topics/examples for the current component being viewed and being able to jump down (potentially a long ways) instead of a lot of vertical scrolling. |
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I think one of the main issues with the new site is that it combines promotional material with technical documentation to the detriment of each (which are competing with each other strongly via the confusing menu structure). I think separating these more clearly (and using different design cues for each) would be a big help. The current site is mostly a decent reference site for developers with its sidebars and anchor links, but promotional pages should be conceived of differently (and removed from this structure). I could see this morphing into two sites which link to each other:
The main vue site is a lovely demonstration of this kind of division actually: https://vuejs.org/ |
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Marvellous, Great choice of color. |
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Personal opinions: It looks like that you switched the docs to oldest version. The current in use Quasar Docs is more functional and more beautiful and easier to use. Also, I didn't like the new colors, components selector (which has image cards like old style), the shadow which is dominant below some components like header and card. And BTW, the footer is so big :). The new font with lighter font weight is not well for eyes. Need to work on header. Also, its font sizes are big. Again, the second row of header is getting much of the space. The new dark teal and orange colors are not very welcoming. It's a tolerable Docs to say better than nothing. |
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I don't want to feel harsh on the people that made this new landing page, but to me this doesn't feel mature. That may be a good starting point, but needs to be improved a lot.
To emphasize the last point (and many others), I consider the React MUI landing page as the best example : modern look, good typography, balanced colors, interactive examples that one wants to play with. I really think that Quasar deserves such a beautiful landing page and I'd be happy to help ! |
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Hi!
The new design, unfortunately, has lost many of these advantages. Maybe, with all due respect to your designers, put out a contest for designers, and have the community vote on the options?! |
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Ooh, my first impression is this is "kiddie candy" for gamers or something. Like Discord. The thick faded blue separator under the header and on top of the footer is way too much. It should be just a thin blue line like under the subject headings in the footer. I like dark themes in general but the dark blue, in this case, is discordant with typical dark themes (ie; Vue docs) so I would have to switch to the light theme, BUT, the general text color is too light, especially on the LHS nav pane. Some of us are getting old and even glasses do not help so little more contrast and slightly larger font sizes would be appreciated. Last niggle, the front page of new-docs runs my Chromium browser at 40% cpu usage. |
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Another major update deployed today (March 7th). |
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Without all of that blue-glow is now starting to look better...BTW next steps are using Montserrat just for headings and something more standard for body text, remove all that weird letter-spacing and adjusting a little bit font size and colors: The version selector should stay at left, IMHO, for quicker access. Regarding the landing page, if you want to make it more visually catching, maybe an inspiration can come from GitHub one: |
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For the light/dark mode switch, consider using the one from the vue.js docs: https://vuejs.org/guide/introduction.html. It's more intuitive IMO, and why not align with vue? Also, the default theme should be the system theme, or light, but not dark. Very few docs use dark theme as their default, so why going on a design adventure and change this established practice? TBH: It does not feel like a seasoned designer has created this page, sorry for the harsh words, but that's my impression. It lacks consistency. The UX is bad, there is no reason to have two menu bars in the header. DOCS and COMPONENTS? What's the difference? I would highly recommend to separate the technical docs from the marketing material and start page. Now it tries to serve everything in the same place, making it just confusing and annoying. Once you do that, there will be no need to have two header menus either. Also, these buttons just look ugly: |
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Hi guys, I'm really digging the new look after the recent round of fixes. I was a bit skeptical in the beginning and I didn't like it that much, but I think that we're now going in the "right" direction. The main focus is now more clear than before (it's a developer-oriented documentation, after all), and the flashier, marketing-oriented design features are less heavier on the eyes. I'd like to thank @rstoenescu, @IlCallo, Dreamonkey and everyone involved for listening to the community's feedback, even the harsher ones. With that being said, I'd like to spend my two cents, because I really see the potential in this new site and I think we're really close to perfection. My feedback is mostly typography oriented, since I believe that's the main pain point that still needs to be fully addressed. Let's go:
Regarding the "marketing" section:
Overall, again thank you if you've reached this point. I'm 100% confident we share the same bigger picture and want the best for Quasar, as a framework and as a community. Let's reach for the stars 🚀 ! |
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As far as I understood the purpose of the new design is to attract as many users as possible and, as a consequence, to increase the financial support of the project. I'm sure that we need to concentrate not on a new design, but on standardization and expanding capabilities! |
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This is not directly about the new docs but a request for a feature I would really like: One aspect I have grown to love from Vuetify are offline docs. I.e. their docs are a PWA and cached for offline. This is very helpful when developing on-the-go (e.g. train) without a (stable) internet connection. |
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DO not go white on black, it's atrocious, just like the font. There are much better designers (or for that matter, css pre-made themes, including... Quasar's own!) than this out there, I'm sorry if I'm hurting someone's feelings, but this is way too subpar when compared to the professional, well designed, super-fast tool that Quasar is. The docs are just perfect as they are. It was an error to close the forums and go to Discord. |
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The new docs is awesome ! However i would suggest to move the sidemenu to the extreme left in order to give more space to the core content, as of now, on a 1900x resolution the text size is way too small and there are many gaps. Between the blue lines, the elements should be centered, otherwise it feels tilting. Would be nice to have these implemented :) Beside of that, the documentations is sooooo much better than before. |
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Another update deployed today (March 24th). If anything seems out of place, please clear cache. The cache has not been optimized yet and it's scheduled when we deploy the new website over the current one. |
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The responsive width made the whole difference. That's a lot nicer now. I can see me using it. Thanks for listening to us. |
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Way to go folks! Thanks for listening to our feedback. |
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Thank you all for your feedback! I've just merged the new docs into quasar.dev and I'll open up a new thread in Announcements about this. Should you feel the need, please comment there instead as I will lock this thread. You'll get the new docs as soon as your PWA updates it. If you don't want to wait, uninstall the current instance of it. |
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Thank you again to ALL of you for caring and contributing with your feedback! Your involvement was key to making the docs as best as possible. And remember that this is just the first step. We will keep on improving it! Thank you, beautiful community! |
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Hello and Happy Holidays from the Quasar Framework team!
We are excited to announce the community preview launch of our new documentation website. This preview/beta version gives you a sneak peek at the design and features of the main site, which we will be launching in the near future. Besides many goodies that you will discover, it also includes a highly requested feature: dark mode. In addition to the sleek new design, the site now has a toggle that allows you to switch between "light" and "dark" themes.
A lot of work has been put into the new docs, not just for the looks but for the "engine" powering it too, but we will detail this later.
We hope this preview will give you a better understanding of how the site will look and function, and we welcome any feedback you have, preferably here on this forum post. What do you love about it? What do you dislike about it?
https://new-docs.quasar.dev - (temporary URL until we merge it into quasar.dev)
Thank you for your interest in Quasar, and we look forward to bringing you the full version of our documentation website soon!
PS: do not use this as your daily driver for the information on it may get out of sync
PPS: The new docs will get some updates from time to time. If anything appears out of place, it may be due to caching (which we haven't yet optimized for the new docs), so clear it. And enjoy!
PPPS: Major update deployed on February 28th. Lots of feedback has been implemented for which we are grateful. There is additional feedback to be taken into account in a future update.
PPPPS: Another major update deployed today (March 7th). If anything seems out of place, please clear cache. The cache has not been optimized yet and it's scheduled when we deploy the new website over the current one.
PPPPS: Another update deployed today (March 24th). If anything seems out of place, please clear cache. The cache has not been optimized yet and it's scheduled when we deploy the new website over the current one.
PPPPPS: Launched the new docs on our main domain quasar.dev (March 28th).
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