diff --git a/data/Notifications.qml b/data/Notifications.qml
index 9cbd6d512..7f76fade9 100644
--- a/data/Notifications.qml
+++ b/data/Notifications.qml
@@ -13,6 +13,11 @@ QtObject {
 
 	readonly property NotificationsModel allNotificationsModel: NotificationsModel {
 		onNotificationInserted: (notification) => toastedNotification.onNotificationInserted(notification)
+		// FIXME: the insertion comes before the removal of the "last one" even though the code says otherwise
+		// - see NotificationsImpl
+		// We fundamentally have a problem with the way the model is managed.
+		// The DBUS and MQTT might even remove all notifications before or after recreating them all again!
+		// onNotificationRemoved is only called after the Notification is destroyed which might be a time after.
 		onNotificationRemoved: (notification) => toastedNotification.onNotificationRemoved(notification)
 	}
 
@@ -27,6 +32,7 @@ QtObject {
 			if(!toastedNotif.toast) {
 				let createdToast = Global.notificationLayer?.showToastNotification(notif.type, "")
 				if(createdToast) {
+					console.log("Created toast")
 					createdToast.text = Qt.binding(function() { return `${notif.deviceName}\n${notif.description}`})
 					toastedNotif.toast = createdToast
 					toastedNotif.notification = notif
@@ -36,6 +42,7 @@ QtObject {
 
 		function onNotificationRemoved(notif: BaseNotification) {
 			if(toastedNotif.notification === notif) {
+				console.log("onNotificationRemoved:close()")
 				close()
 			} else {
 				console.log("notification removed isn't the last one we made a toast for")
@@ -50,8 +57,9 @@ QtObject {
 
 		function checkAndRemoveExistingToast(notif: BaseNotification): bool {
 			if(toast && (notif.type === VenusOS.Notification_Alarm ||
-						(notif.type === VenusOS.Notification_Warning && toast.category !== VenusOS.Notification_Alarm) ||
-						toast.category === VenusOS.Notification_Info)) {
+						 (notif.type === VenusOS.Notification_Warning && toast.category !== VenusOS.Notification_Alarm) ||
+						 toast.category === VenusOS.Notification_Info)) {
+				console.log("checkAndRemoveExistingToast:close()")
 				close()
 			}
 		}
diff --git a/data/common/Notification.qml b/data/common/Notification.qml
index c7055f624..d0045f185 100644
--- a/data/common/Notification.qml
+++ b/data/common/Notification.qml
@@ -61,7 +61,9 @@ BaseNotification {
 			return
 		}
 		// insert into the allNotificationsModel
+		console.log(">>>>>>>>> inserting new")
 		Global.notifications.allNotificationsModel.insertNotification(notification)
+		console.log("<<<<<<<<< inserting new completed")
 	}
 
 	// These properties should not be written to; use updateSilenced() and updateActive() functions
@@ -76,6 +78,8 @@ BaseNotification {
 
 	Component.onDestruction: {
 		// remove from the allNotificationsModel
+		console.log("Notification::onDestruction begin")
 		Global.notifications.allNotificationsModel.removeNotification(notification)
+		console.log("Notification::onDestruction end")
 	}
 }
diff --git a/data/mock/NotificationsImpl.qml b/data/mock/NotificationsImpl.qml
index 16b5e07d3..b6d9eee97 100644
--- a/data/mock/NotificationsImpl.qml
+++ b/data/mock/NotificationsImpl.qml
@@ -138,6 +138,7 @@ QtObject {
 		let notificationId = numberOfNotifications
 
 		if (numberOfNotifications >= maxNotificationCount) {
+			console.log("IMPL: about to renove")
 			notificationId = removeLastNotification()
 		}
 
@@ -156,7 +157,15 @@ QtObject {
 		let notif = notifications.pop()
 		const notificationId = notif.notificationId
 		updateNotifications()
+		console.log("IMPL: about to destroy")
+		notif.destroy() // doesn't do it immediately!!
 
+		// https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qtqml-javascript-dynamicobjectcreation.html#deleting-objects-dynamically
+		// Objects are not destroyed the instant destroy() is called,
+		// but are cleaned up sometime between the end of that script block
+		// and the next frame (unless you specified a non-zero delay).
+
+		console.log("IMPL: after destroy")
 		return notificationId
 	}