How does *ALL section "exactly" works?

[pmsobrado]

I feel like I'm missing something here. I have a plugin on the *ALL section that causes a crash on startup (Vita freezes on the warning text and the shuts down). But if I use it on a specific titleid, it works OK and there's no crash.

The plugin's wiki states that it can be used on the *ALL section, so maybe I have some incompatibility, or maybe the plugin was updated and now is not suitable for the *ALL section, and the author forgot to remove the *ALL usage from the readme. I really don't know and haven't found anything related or anyone with the same problem (I assume few people use the plugin and they may use it by a per titleid basis).

The plugin is DS34Motion, by the way: https://github.com/MERLev/DS34Motion.

In any case, I wanted to try and see if I could find the conflict and solve it myself. From what I understand, *ALL section enables a plugin for all titleids on the Vita (games, homebrew and system apps). So I grabbed my app.db, copied all titleids, and added this to config.txt:

*!TITLEID01
*!TITLEID02
*!TITLEID03
*!TITLEID04
...
(and so on)

*ALL
ur0:/tai/myplugin.suprx

The Vita kept crashing after this so I wonder, if I've negated all titleids on my console, and the *ALL section only enable plugins on all titleids on my console, why is the crash still there? What else is the *ALL section doing behind the curtains?

I hope I have explained myself.

Thanks in advance!

[isage]

https://github.com/DaveeFTW/taihen-parser

*ALL also includes *main (aka shell)

[pmsobrado]

@isage And is there a way to prevent a plugin in the *ALL section loading into main (Shell)?

[isage]

*!main

[pmsobrado]

*!main

@isage You what you mean is something like this:

*!main

*main
plugin1
plugin2
plugin3

*ALL
plugin1
plugin2
plugin3
plugin4

Plugins 1, 2 and 3 will load to main and ALL, but plugin 4 would only to ALL, being available (only) to all titleids?

[isage]

*main
plugin1
plugin2
plugin3

*!main
*ALL
plugin1
plugin2
plugin3
plugin4

[pmsobrado]

I'll try, thanks!!

[HEDGE1974]

Try adding # in front of 1 tweak at a time and then turn off then on to find which line of txt is causing the problem. I always use auto plugin 2 to install mine which will guarantee that the txt is added to their correct location so I don’t get any errors. Hope this helps as manual install will normally give you errors and auto installs are setup to always add plugin txt to correct lines of subheading

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On 1/08/2023, at 9:12 PM, Pablo Sobrado ***@***.***> wrote:  I feel like I'm missing something here. I have a plugin on the *ALL section that causes a crash on startup (Vita freezes on the warning text and the shuts down). But if I use it on specific title, it works OK and there's no crash. The plugin's wiki states that it can be used on the *ALL section, so maybe I have some incompatibility, or maybe the plugin was updated and now is not suitable for the *ALL section and the author forgot to remove the *ALL usage from the readme. In any case, I wanted to try and see if I could find the conflict and solve it myself. From what I understand, *ALL section enables a plugin for all titles on the Vita (games, homebrew and system apps). So I grabbed my app.db, copied all titleids, and added this to config.txt: *!TITLEID01 *!TITLEID02 *!TITLEID03 *!TITLEID04 ... (and so on) *ALL ur0:/tai/myplugin.suprx The Vita kept crashing after this so I wonder, if I've negated all titleids on my console, and the *ALL section only enable plugin on all titleids on my console, why the crash still there? What else is the *ALL section doing behind the curtains? I hope I have explained myself. Thanks in advance! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.

[HEDGE1974]

Add # in front of line of text you want system to skip

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On 1/08/2023, at 9:50 PM, Pablo Sobrado ***@***.***> wrote:  @isage And is there a way to prevent a plugin in the *ALL section loading into main (Shell)? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.

[pmsobrado]

@HEDGE1974 I tried only with that plugin in *ALL section, but it crash. Seems like it's not a conflict with other plugin, but an incompatibility with something which *ALL section loads.

@isage I tried this:

*main
plugin_for_both_main_and_all

*!main

*ALL
plugin_for_both_main_and_all
plugin_only_for_all

This time, my Vita reaches to the shell, but it freezes after a few seconds. Commenting plugin_only_for_all solves it. So I guess the plugin is still being loaded somewhere and that causes the crash. Any other ideas?