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title: ICAT Collaboration Meeting - 29th June 2023 | ||
date: 2023-09-29 | ||
chair: Alejandra Gonzalez-Beltran | ||
scribe: Patrick Austin | ||
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Attendees: | ||
- Patrick | ||
- Nicolas Soler | ||
- Rolf Krahl | ||
- Louise | ||
- Allan Pinto | ||
- Alexander | ||
- Alejandra | ||
- Marjolaine | ||
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Apologies: | ||
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- Alex de Maria (ESRF) | ||
- Andy Goetz (ESRF) | ||
- Kevin | ||
- Malik | ||
- Gabriel Preuß | ||
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## Site Updates | ||
### ESRF (Marjolaine): | ||
Busy with 3-days visit from DLS people on Thursday | ||
- Spoke a lot about data management | ||
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Alex spoke at ispyb collab meeting about putting their data into ICAT DB | ||
Working on generic sample tracking for all beamlines (merging ISPyB and ICAT sample tracking) | ||
Had corrupted Etherpad files, have removed from frontend and placed it on standby (deployed, but hidden from users) | ||
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### HZB (Rolf): | ||
Cyber attack two weeks ago, "everything is down" (including email) | ||
- Lots of Windows PCs have been infected, encrypting files | ||
- No known instances of Linux machines being affected - confident about the data infrastructure | ||
- But no way to check | ||
- Forensic experts are currently investigation, rumoured to be a matter of weeks before bringing things back | ||
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Would be interested in meeting re: logbooks | ||
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### ALBA (Nicolas) | ||
In process of implementing ICAT on beamline | ||
Desigining the metadata that should be uploaded to ICAT | ||
Also exploring the logbook (will need ICAT+ API) | ||
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### Sirius (Allan) | ||
Not too much to report | ||
Deciding on data format for tomographic beamlines (already have it for other domain) | ||
Then will begin ingest, play around with project and try to understand the components | ||
Want to test: | ||
- Kubernetes (hope to have feedback by next meeting) - looking at ALBA's solution | ||
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### ISIS | ||
Don't think Will Taylor has been able to work on this recently | ||
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### DLS | ||
Effort migrating tape archive from castor to CTA | ||
Pre-prod installation for Payara6 | ||
- Alan has been making releases for this | ||
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### ICAT 6 / Payara 6 | ||
- Want to encourage adoption of Payara6 (for security concerns and to avoid having to support multiple versions) | ||
- HZB: soonish | ||
- ESRF: no plan yet, TBD | ||
- Sirius: using 5 | ||
- ALBA: don't know | ||
- Deadline for moving? TBD via mailing list or in future meeting | ||
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## Component Updates | ||
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### python-icat | ||
More or less ready for 1.1 release: | ||
- Provides an IngestReader, which was implemented in HZB specific code before and is now moved into main python-icat codebase | ||
- Few minor fixes | ||
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Q: Do we want a snapshot, or release outright (do not expect compatibility issues)? | ||
- DG-API pins the version, so we can test afterwards | ||
- Direct release is fine | ||
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Expect tomorrow or next week | ||
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### Logbooks (timestamped version) | ||
Interest from multiple facilities | ||
HZB working on making it suitable for multiple facilities | ||
- Ideally want to push changes upstream to ESRF | ||
- Need to tweak things which are "hardcoded" to ESRF logic, this is the main effort currently, making them configurable | ||
- Using the DataHub verson, **not** the standalone version | ||
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ESRF working on the DataPortal version too, one item of the plan is to make it standalone version (not clear when) | ||
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### Notebooks (Etherpad version) | ||
STFC student has been adapting the permissions and work on endpoint, use DG-API or speak with ICAT server. | ||
Concerns of the corruptions of pads, under investigation. | ||
Other concern is suitability of Etherpad due to the lack of updates. There has been some activitiy in the repository. | ||
There are some alternatives: | ||
- Tiny MCE | ||
- Only office | ||
- https://github.com/xwiki-labs/cryptpad | ||
- https://github.com/hedgedoc/hedgedoc | ||
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Permissions would be configurable. | ||
ESRF - they haven't had time to investigate a lot but scientists complain because when they entered images or tables, it wasn't working. | ||
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### Upload | ||
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### Sample tracking | ||
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Question from Allan - information per sample might be different for each group wanting to implement sample tracking, is it better to implement a standalone solution? | ||
- ESRF have ICAT(+) (for all beamlines) and ispyb (for MX) and are trying to merge these | ||
- Have a configuration (processing plan) for each beamline | ||
- Interface retrieves config and displays the relevant column | ||
- Generic (configurable) solution | ||
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Currently collating the information from the three interested groups, will reach out in the future. | ||
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## AOB | ||
Availability for July/August meetings? |
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