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# MSC4222: Adding `state_after` to sync v2 | ||
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The current sync v2 API does not differentiate between state events in the timeline and updates to state, and so can | ||
cause the client's view of the current state of the room to diverge from the actual state of the room. This is | ||
particularly problematic for use-cases that rely on state being consistent between different clients. | ||
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This behavior stems from the fact that the clients update their view of the current state with state events that appear | ||
in the timeline. To handle gappy syncs, the `state` section includes state events that are from *before* the start of | ||
the timeline, and so are replaced by any matching state events in the timeline. This provides little opportunity for the | ||
server to ensure that the clients come to the correct conclusion about the current state of the room. | ||
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In [MSC4186 - Simplified Sliding Sync](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4186) this problem is | ||
solved by the equivalent `required_state` section including all state changes between the previous sync and the end of | ||
the current sync, and clients do not update their view of state based on entries in the timeline. | ||
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## Proposal | ||
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This change is gated behind the client adding a `?use_state_after=true` (the unstable name is | ||
`org.matrix.use_state_after`) query param. | ||
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When enabled, the Homeserver will **omit** the `state` section in the room response sections. This is replaced by | ||
`state_after` (the unstable field name is `org.matrix.state_after`), which will include all state changes between the | ||
previous sync and the *end* of the timeline section of the current sync. This is in contrast to the old `state` section | ||
that only included state changes between the previous sync and the *start* of the timeline section. Note that this does | ||
mean that a new state event will (likely) appear in both the timeline and state sections of the response. | ||
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This is basically the same as how state is returned in [MSC4186 - Simplified Sliding | ||
Sync](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4186). | ||
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State events that appear in the timeline section **MUST NOT** update the current state. The current state **MUST** only be | ||
updated with the contents of `state_after`. | ||
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Clients can tell if the server supports this change by whether it returns a `state` or `state_after` section in the | ||
response. | ||
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### Examples | ||
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#### Example 1 \- Common case | ||
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Let’s take a look at the common case of a state event getting sent down an incremental sync, which is non-gappy. | ||
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<table> | ||
<tr><th>Previously</th><th>Proposed</th></tr> | ||
<tr> | ||
<td> | ||
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```json | ||
{ | ||
"timeline": { | ||
"events": [ { | ||
"type": "org.matrix.example", | ||
"state_key": "" | ||
} ], | ||
"limited": false, | ||
}, | ||
"state": { | ||
"events": [] | ||
} | ||
} | ||
``` | ||
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</td> | ||
<td> | ||
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```json | ||
{ | ||
"timeline": { | ||
"events": [ { | ||
"type": "org.matrix.example", | ||
"state_key": "" | ||
} ], | ||
"limited": false, | ||
}, | ||
"state_after": { | ||
"events": [ { | ||
"type": "org.matrix.example", | ||
"state_key": "" | ||
} ] | ||
} | ||
``` | ||
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</td> | ||
</tr> | ||
</table> | ||
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Since the current state of the room will include the new state event, it's included in the `state_after` section. | ||
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> [!NOTE] | ||
> In the proposed API the state event comes down both in the timeline section *and* the state section. | ||
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#### Example 2 - Receiving “outdated” state | ||
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Next, let’s look at what would happen if we receive a state event that does not take effect, i.e. that shouldn’t cause the client to update its state. | ||
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<table> | ||
<tr><th>Previously</th><th>Proposed</th></tr> | ||
<tr> | ||
<td> | ||
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```json | ||
{ | ||
"timeline": { | ||
"events": [ { | ||
"type": "org.matrix.example", | ||
"state_key": "" | ||
} ], | ||
"limited": false, | ||
}, | ||
"state": { | ||
"events": [] | ||
} | ||
} | ||
``` | ||
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</td> | ||
<td> | ||
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```json | ||
{ | ||
"timeline": { | ||
"events": [ { | ||
"type": "org.matrix.example", | ||
"state_key": "" | ||
} ], | ||
"limited": false, | ||
}, | ||
"state_after": { | ||
"events": [] | ||
} | ||
} | ||
``` | ||
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</td> | ||
</tr> | ||
</table> | ||
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Since the current state of the room does not include the new state event, it's excluded from the `state_after` section. | ||
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> [!IMPORTANT] | ||
> Both responses are the same, but the client **MUST NOT** update its state with the event. | ||
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## Potential issues | ||
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With the proposed API the common case for receiving a state update will cause the event to come down in both the | ||
`timeline` and `state` sections, potentially increasing bandwidth usage. However, it is common for the HTTP responses to | ||
be compressed, heavily reducing the impact of having duplicated data. | ||
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Clients will not be able to tell when a state change happened within the timeline. This was used by some clients to | ||
render e.g. display names of users at the time they sent the message (rather than their current display name), though | ||
e.g. Element clients have moved away from this UX. This behavior can be replicated in the same way that clients dealt | ||
with messages received via pagination (i.e. calling `/messages`), by walking the timeline backwards and inspecting the | ||
`unsigned.prev_state` field. While this can lead to incorrect results, this is no worse than the previous situation. | ||
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## Alternatives | ||
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There are a number of options for encoding the same information in different ways, for example the response could | ||
include both the `state` and a `state_delta` section, where `state_delta` would be any changes that needed to be applied | ||
to the client calculated state to correct it. However, since | ||
[MSC4186](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4186) is likely to replace the sync v2 API, we may as | ||
well use the same mechanism. This also has the benefit of showing that the proposed API shape can be successfully | ||
implemented by clients, as the MSC is implemented and in use by clients. | ||
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Another option would be for server implementations to try and fudge the state and timeline responses to ensure that | ||
clients came to the correct view of state. For example, if the server detects that a sync response will cause the client | ||
to come to an incorrect view of state it could either a) "fixup" the state in the `state` section of the *next* sync | ||
response, or b) remove or add old state events to the timeline section. While both these approaches are viable, they're | ||
both suboptimal to just telling the client the correct information in the first place. Since clients will need to be | ||
updated to handle the new behavior for future sync APIs anyway, there is little benefit from not updating clients now. | ||
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We could also do nothing, and instead wait for [MSC4186](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4186) | ||
(or equivalent) to land and for clients to update to it. | ||
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## Security considerations | ||
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There are no security concerns with this proposal, as it simply encodes the same information sent do clients in a | ||
different way | ||
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## Unstable prefix | ||
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| Name | Stable prefix | Unstable prefix | | ||
| - | - | - | | ||
| Query param | `use_state_after` | `org.matrix.use_state_after` | | ||
| Room response field | `state_after` | `org.matrix.state_after` | | ||
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## Dependencies | ||
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None |