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Discuss sites that users pay for with data. #436

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@jyasskin jyasskin commented Sep 25, 2024

Fixes #189.


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Note that because data is valuable, some sites allow users to pay for use of the site with data. If
a user of this sort of site doesn't [=consent=] to exchange their data for use of the site, it's not
retaliation to prevent them from using the site.
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Is there anything that then needs to be said about the nature of such deals? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobson's_choice perhaps?

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Hard to make a general statement that denying some web resource to users who choose not to give some consent is never retaliation. The "pay for the use of a site with data" covers a lot of different situations, from "fill in your email address to read a white paper" to "consent to surveillance on all your devices in order to get to your child's school announcements."

There are "controlled circulation" business models in publishing where a legit exchange of lead gen data for content takes place, but also cases where the power relationship between a site and user does not allow for actual consent.

Maybe better to say "some sites offer an informed, free and fair exchange of appropriate user information for original content they create or pay for the creation of, and denying access to users who choose not to participate in such an exchange is not retaliation."

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I'll replace the PR with @dmarti's suggestion.

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How's this?

@jyasskin jyasskin requested a review from dmarti October 23, 2024 16:42
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This looks good to me, thank you.

@jyasskin jyasskin merged commit 254a8d0 into w3ctag:main Oct 26, 2024
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This reverts #436 and commit 254a8d0.
Some folks on the TAG objected to the change.
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This was reverted by #451.

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Write (or remove) section on "pay for use in data"
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