Dynamic derivations RFC 92 #4628

Ericson2314 · 2021-03-10T15:24:28Z

See the tests in https://github.com/obsidiansystems/nix/blob/dynamic-drvs/tests/dyn-drv/ for what is being implemented.

Needs:

Make cooler tests
RFC draft
Unstable feature gate to prevent accidental use
Fix Perl bindings

~~Depends on #4594~~
~~Depends on #3959~~
~~Depends on #4543~~
~~Depends on #5364~~
~~Depends on #7601~~
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~~Depends on #8369~~
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~~Depends on #8938~~

@thufschmitt

These changes were taken from dynamic derivation (NixOS#4628). They somewhat undo the the refactors I first did for floating CA derivations, as the benefit of hindsight + requirements of dynamic derivations made me reconsider some things. They aren't to consequential, but I figured they might be good to land first, before the more profound changes @thufschmitt has in the works.

@thufschmitt

This changes was taken from dynamic derivation (NixOS#4628). It` somewhat undoes the refactors I first did for floating CA derivations, as the benefit of hindsight + requirements of dynamic derivations made me reconsider some things. They aren't to consequential, but I figured they might be good to land first, before the more profound changes @thufschmitt has in the works.

@thufschmitt

This changes was taken from dynamic derivation (NixOS#4628). It` somewhat undoes the refactors I first did for floating CA derivations, as the benefit of hindsight + requirements of dynamic derivations made me reconsider some things. They aren't to consequential, but I figured they might be good to land first, before the more profound changes @thufschmitt has in the works.

@thufschmitt

This changes was taken from dynamic derivation (NixOS#4628). It` somewhat undoes the refactors I first did for floating CA derivations, as the benefit of hindsight + requirements of dynamic derivations made me reconsider some things. They aren't to consequential, but I figured they might be good to land first, before the more profound changes @thufschmitt has in the works.

src/libstore/tests/derivation.cc

doc/manual/src/protocols/derivation-aterm.md

src/libstore/build/derivation-goal.cc

src/libstore/derivations.cc

src/libstore/tests/derivation.cc

- Don't assert: Derivation ATerms are not necessarily produced by Nix, and parsers should always throw graceful errors - Improve error message from `static void except(..)`, shows both what we expected and what we actually got. The intention is that we backport it, and then hopefully a few people might get slightly better errors if they try out new experimental drv files (for RFC 92) with an old version of Nix.

doc/manual/src/protocols/derivation-aterm.md

roberth

Minor suggestions 🚀

src/libcmd/built-path.cc

src/libstore/build/derivation-goal.cc

roberth · 2023-09-07T08:01:42Z

src/libstore/derivations.cc

+    if (std::find_if(
+            inputDrvs.map.begin(),
+            inputDrvs.map.end(),
+            [](auto & kv) { return !kv.second.childMap.empty(); })


Could you add a Derivation method for this?

I made a static function, since nothing else needs it yet. Did you just want it pulled out for legibility, or did you want something publicly in the header in particular?

roberth · 2023-09-07T08:10:43Z

src/libstore/misc.cc

+                    // FIXME: Someday have "deep" realizations analogous to
+                    // deep placeholders, rather than just straight-up
+                    // resolving the computed drv to a store path.


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// FIXME: Someday have "deep" realizations analogous to

// deep placeholders, rather than just straight-up

// resolving the computed drv to a store path.

This is not urgent, so best to put this in an issue and reference it from the tracking issue.

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// FIXME: Someday have "deep" realizations analogous to

// deep placeholders, rather than just straight-up

// resolving the computed drv to a store path.

// TODO deep resolutions for dynamic derivations, issue #8947, would go here.

I left a reference, just to make this all less cryptic :). Let me know if that is OK.

src/libstore/remote-store.cc

src/libstore/misc.cc

src/libstore/build/derivation-goal.cc

We use the same nested map representation we used for goals, again in order to save space. We might someday want to combine with `inputDrvs`, by doing `V = bool` instead of `V = std::set<OutputName>`, but we are not doing that yet for sake of a smaller diff. The ATerm format for Derivations also needs to be extended, in addition to the in-memory format. To accomodate this, we added a new basic versioning scheme, so old versions of Nix will get nice errors. (And going forward, if the ATerm format changes again the errors will be even better.) `parsedStrings`, an internal function used as part of parsing derivations in A-Term format, used to consume the final `]` but expect the initial `[` to already be consumed. This made for what looked like unbalanced brackets at callsites, which was confusing. Now it consumes both which is hopefully less confusing. As part of testing, we also created a unit test for the A-Term format for regular non-experimental derivations too. Co-authored-by: Robert Hensing <[email protected]> Co-authored-by: Valentin Gagarin <[email protected]> Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Robert Hensing <[email protected]>

The Derivation parser and old ATerm unfortunately leaves few ways to get nice errors when an old version of Nix encounters a new version of the format. The most likely scenario for this to occur is with a new client making a derivation that the old daemon it is communicating with cannot understand. The extensions we just created for dynamic derivation deps will add a version field, solving the problem going forward, but there is still the issue of what to do about old versions of Nix up to now. The solution here is to carefully catch the bad error from the daemon that is likely to indicate this problem, and add some extra context to it. There is another "Ugly backwards compatibility hack" in `remote-store.cc` that also works by transforming an error. Co-authored-by: Robert Hensing <[email protected]>

dpulls · 2023-09-07T15:07:06Z

🎉 All dependencies have been resolved !

roberth · 2023-09-07T15:36:41Z

That's an MVP for ya!

You'll want to use this with recursive-nix for trying this out with non-trivial builds (writing not a singular drv), but be aware that the interface may change. We want to offer a safer, more limited recursive nix functionality by default, so that a graph of drvs can be constructed, sources can be generated, etc, but that's not been built yet and may or may not use the existing daemon protocol. Again this is experimental. ymmv.

🚀

nixos-discourse · 2023-09-07T17:31:22Z

This pull request has been mentioned on NixOS Discourse. There might be relevant details there:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/rfc-92-status-update/27441/6

domenkozar · 2023-09-11T17:08:56Z

Is there any documentation how to use dynamic derivations?

Ericson2314 · 2023-09-11T18:35:56Z

Not enough, that is definitely next on the agenda.

Some parts like the outputOf builtin are documented, but other parts are not (like "text" content addressing derivation outputs) because the original concept was already undocumented! And there is definitely no tutorial yet on putting all the pieces together.

For now, I would look at the tests and imitate what they do. Hopefully that is not too cumbersome.

domenkozar · 2023-09-12T08:10:01Z

It seems that dynamic derivations require content addressable store?

Ericson2314 · 2023-09-12T08:58:56Z

Yes. Because derivations themselves are always content addressed, any derivation that produces derivations must be derivation which opts to content-address its outputs.

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	// FIXME: Someday have "deep" realizations analogous to
	// deep placeholders, rather than just straight-up
	// resolving the computed drv to a store path.

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